|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
|
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
|
July 31, 2004StarFox 2: Want LAN? Let's Earn It.Warp Pipe Community I think we all know that gamers would like LAN support in StarFox 2, coming to GameCube this November. Warp Pipe had the opportunity to play the game at this year's E3 and it's a very fun, well-rounded game -- especially the multi player. So much, we feel that it would be a crime to its consumers if Nintendo intentionally left out LAN support. Now, we have never advocated members of Warp Pipe to go on a letter writing campaign (or any form of contact for that matter). Mainly for the fact that we did not want Nintendo to see the Warp Pipe community as rude and unrealistic. That said, we do not think a feature implementation process that has been publicly demanded for almost a year concerning a game which has well over 2 months of development time left is unrealistic. Friends, below are the means in which to contact Nintendo. We highly advocate, especially if you mention your allegiance to Warp Pipe, that you express yourself with the respect Warp Pipe bestows onto its community as well as Nintendo as an organization. The only way to show Nintendo that online connectivity is worthwhile is to show that we are a group of average gamers, not the privileged few who know what an IP address is. If possible, explain your experience with 0.4, which is currently in public testing on our forums, and your prior knowledge of computers and networking before using Warp Pipe. Feel free to utilize your creativity and distribute this message in any other form you wish. Remember, no spamming please and never break the rules of another forum or mailing list when doing so. May nothing but respect and civility be contained in your letters, may luck be with all of us, but most importantly -- may all of us work towards something not for the fear of disappointment, but for the enjoyment we share in gaming as a community. Nintendo Of America Email: nintendo@noa.nintendo.com Nintendo Of Europe Email: NintendoServiceCenter@codestorm.co.uk Nintendo Of Canada Email: nintendo@noa.nintendo.com Comments
Well I've sent my email off. Looks like it may be the first one too since there are no other comments! lol. Anyone else? Posted by: Brad at August 1, 2004 04:59 AMI sent email to NOA and I'm gonna mail one to Nintendo of Canada soo. Posted by: Marcus at August 1, 2004 05:03 AMi will send 1.. i got the email... but what sorta stuff u put on it?? Posted by: NewBoy at August 1, 2004 07:04 AMsuccessful implementation of lan functionality in a game is something that needs to be planned from very early on in the development process. "well over 2 months" is not a sufficient amount of time to implement such a feature from scratch. your cause is a noble one though, so good luck with it. Posted by: erp at August 1, 2004 08:38 AMsent a letter in :D Posted by: The60ftatomicman at August 1, 2004 12:49 PMBoo Ya! letter sent last night! I really hope they start comming out with more games with LAN capabilities!!! XD Posted by: Puddlemonkey at August 1, 2004 01:13 PMEr...wait...maybe it was this morning...bad memory, hehe =P Posted by: Puddlmonkey at August 1, 2004 01:14 PMPosted mine... lets see what they say Posted by: Skaida at August 1, 2004 01:29 PMsending a regular letter might be good idea... Posted by: Link_26 at August 1, 2004 02:36 PMsending a regular letter might be good idea... Posted by: Link_26 at August 1, 2004 02:36 PMWhat should I say in the email? Posted by: Master Link at August 1, 2004 04:30 PMI think they mean that 2 months of development time is more than enough time to bring something back from the dead. Star Fox 2 was, like F-Zero, developed with LAN in mind. It is more of a "let's write to keep LAN mode" than "let's write to implement LAN mode". Posted by: triforce at August 2, 2004 12:37 AMI really wish that nintendo, EA, Activision, and any other company would make LAN or Online games for GCN instead of PS2 and Xbox. Also EA was stupid to make Xbox online games instead of GCN. Posted by: Flint at August 2, 2004 02:50 PMThis is not one of those issues you can debate on, either you are part of the solution, or you are part of the problem. We all know that the other starfox game was delayed for many reasons, maybe this game will get delayed and have LAN in it. Posted by: mawaluigi at August 2, 2004 03:52 PMI dont think that letting everyone that is a member of warp pipe email nintendo saying they "want" something in a game. Im sure they will be bothered with all these emails talking about the same thing. Im not againts lan game creation, im for it all the way, But i dont think this is the way to get what you want. Nintendo might not make anymore lan games because they know of warp pipe (and Xlink). Or it could be vice versa. They could make games to use for tunneling programs. If they decide to do that, why not make online games? If they decide in the future to join with warp pipe, then that make warp pipe a "pay 2 play service". Posted by: Lowbrassman04 at August 2, 2004 04:13 PMIt's not necessarily stupid. I know it most likely won't work but can't you dream. And if Nintendo knew of warp pipe they wouldn't stop making LAN games because this is just an optional way to go. The only way it would piss off Nintendo if there was a fee, and from websites like ign.com says Nintendo hates fees. And besides, the makers of Halo, which is Bungie and Microsoft, know of XBconnect and there fine. Posted by: Foxmaster at August 2, 2004 08:09 PMThis is what I said in an email... "Please include LAN capabilities for the future title Star Fox 2 (tentative name) for the Nintendo GameCube. I realize that a division of Namco is developing the title, but I find it to be very important to inform Nintendo themselves that LAN support does in fact influence many people. Warppipe is a great service for taking games online through LAN. Please consider LAN for other future GameCube titles as well. Keep up the great work." Feel free to copy and paste that if you want. Although, it would be best if you write your own. Use this as an idea for writing your own. - CubeNES Posted by: CubeNES at August 2, 2004 08:14 PMI forgot to mention before I got a response from Nintendo saying this: "Hi! Thank you for your e-mail regarding our upcoming Star Fox game for the Looks like you're on fire foxmaster! [Lick finger, touch butt] Pss! Posted by: Jimbo at August 3, 2004 02:04 AMNo, No, HOT!! Posted by: Firestopperer at August 3, 2004 02:08 AMOh! That's from Family Guy! I got it. Milk, milk, lemonade, aroud the corner fudge is made. Hehehehehehehe. Posted by: Sir Pointitout at August 3, 2004 02:13 AMI forgot the n in around. LAN rules. No, warppipe does. I use this to let you know. I just played Mario Kart, now I want some foxy action. Posted by: Sir Pointitout at August 3, 2004 02:16 AMI just got a letter back from Nintendo and it said maybe later in the future. Posted by: Flint at August 3, 2004 12:31 PMIm not saying that emailing them is stupid, im saying letting everyone and their grandma do it as well. It should be left to the WP team to do this and I understand why the team is letting everyone to email nintendo, so if they have more comments on the same topic they almost have to consider it. Posted by: Lowbrassman04 at August 3, 2004 03:14 PMi sent mine Posted by: SNES_UK aka redlion at August 3, 2004 03:42 PMI hope this works and I am feeling sad of always playing Mario Kart. But official reports from ign.com says Time Splitters: Future Perfect will most likely have LAN for GameCube. And yes, EA is stupid for not making online games for the big G. Posted by: Jonny Thunder W26464T at August 3, 2004 04:34 PMI sent mine and they said they will do what they can and they mentioned foxmaster's letter. They said they are currently sharing another letter from a person who seems to care more deeply. To me it sounded like foxmaster's but I'm not sure. And why must they put our comments in eastern time because I'm writing from the west coast. So I actually posted this three hours earlier than what it says. And I must say Warp Pipe is way better than Xlink because here there are people who actually want to play with me. In Xlink there is no one there in the GameCube section. Posted by: GmasterPTPro at August 3, 2004 04:42 PMI like online games. I play my PS2 and XBox online a lot. As you can see I actually pay the monthly fee for XBox Live, which sucks to pay but I'm okay with it. PS2 Is luckily free except ypu still need an ISP which everyone has. And this looks like the best way to play my GCN online since PSO fees are more than XBox live and it is just two games. So this way seems the best way for GCN except the other two are better for online. But I do prefer GameCube for offline games, which I play more. But it'll be the bomb to play Mario Kart, Kirby, and 1080, and hopefully Star Fox and from what I hear Time Splitters 3 online through Warp Pipe. I will kick butt with Mario Kart, so watch out. Oh yeah, I sent my e-mail in. Posted by: Weird at August 3, 2004 06:51 PMI'm excited. Posted by: Winner at August 3, 2004 07:14 PMI just sent mine in. . . and requested LAN for Metroid Prime 2: Echoes too. Posted by: Sean at August 3, 2004 08:41 PMNintendo said in my reply that they are amazed by the amount of e-mails they have received reqesting LAN for Star Fox. They said if the letters keep on flowing, who knows, it might work. Posted by: Sir Pointitout at August 3, 2004 09:17 PMhey pointitout, they really said that? Please post the reply in the forums!!! you can post as a guest. please! Posted by: Link_26 at August 4, 2004 02:19 PMHey even if we don't get StarFox with LAN then we can try another game. I bet if we continue with more and more support then we will aleast get another LAN game. Posted by: thetechkid at August 4, 2004 03:06 PMHe has a valid passport account, I'll try to reach him on Messenger. Posted by: Ness at August 4, 2004 03:09 PMThey really did say that, this is the e-mail. "Hey! Thanks for your reqest for LAN on the next Star Fox. Right now we cannot tell you about it's features, but from the amount of e-mails we've been getting reqesting LAN for Star Fox, it might happen." Posted by: Sir. Pointitout at August 4, 2004 10:10 PMThat is great! You are the best for tell us about this! Now I think this is going to work. I'm so excited. And I just can't hide it! Posted by: Hotchick at August 4, 2004 10:12 PMJust sent an email off to nintendo. I really hope they start to include LAN in more of their games. Hope this helps Posted by: crash8619 at August 5, 2004 03:26 AMSir. Pointitout, I'm sorry, but the reply you received does not sound like it came from a Nintendo PR person. Would you mind posting the entire reply as they ALWAYS have some generic response regarding Warp Pipe or online games in any sort of reply. Posted by: Byrne at August 5, 2004 12:17 PMI doubt they would misspell "requesting" too Posted by: TheGooseyOne at August 5, 2004 01:30 PMhe obviously misspelled it Posted by: Link_26 at August 5, 2004 02:48 PMThis is the reply I got from nintendo today: Hello, Thank you for your e-mail regarding our upcoming Star Fox game for the Nintendo As you know, this game is estimated for release in November of 2004. As such, In the meantime, stay tuned to our official website at www.nintendo.com to get Thanks again for your e-mail. Sincerely, Nintendo of America Inc. Maybe you want to send this to Namco instead, since they are making the game. Posted by: agoaj at August 5, 2004 04:22 PMWhy the hell is your e-mail the same as mine crash. I HATE YOU! Posted by: foxmaster at August 5, 2004 05:00 PMI'm not lying. I just misspelled requesting because I make typos alot. You are a HUGE A-HOLE Byrne. If I put the whole thing my hand would get tired so I shortened it. And if I put all of A-hole this website would take it o.ut Posted by: Sir. Pointitout at August 5, 2004 05:03 PMSee, i made a typo again. Posted by: Sir. Pointitout at August 5, 2004 05:04 PMI hope they use warp pipe to make Pokemon Colosseum online. That will be fun. Nintendo is the the best for work with Sony to make this program. I only wish I could play Mario Kart but I know that does not work with this. Posted by: Mr. knowitall at August 5, 2004 07:42 PMI just saw some footage of mario kart using warppipe software of Luigi, baby Luigi vs. Bowser and Parakoopa. I also heard that another online game is coming out. Posted by: Flint at August 5, 2004 09:29 PMreally!?!?! a new online game! hurray! (p.s i just got my letter back too) Posted by: the60ftatomicman at August 5, 2004 10:15 PMIs it a new online game or a new LAN game to use warp pipe. Because if it is Time Spliters: Future Perfect, I already knew that it will have LAN. Posted by: Great at August 5, 2004 10:22 PMactually Time Spliters:Future Perfect hasnt been confirmed to have LAN yet, but I sure hope it does. Posted by: crash8619 at August 5, 2004 11:34 PMI actually knew that from ign.com, I just said it will to get everyone's hopes up and to see if Flint thought it was for sure and this is what he meant. e-mail me your photo of you are hot. Posted by: Great at August 6, 2004 01:46 AMNintendo is the greatest for making Time Splitters: Future perfect LAN and Warp Pipe supported. I can't wait to see what logo they use to indicate Warp Pipe support. It most likely will be the Warp Pipe and under it will say LAN and Warp Pipe supported. Nintendo made the smartest move by teaming up with sony to make Warp Pipe. Good thing they turned dow Bill Gates, our former president, I think, to buy Nintendo. HORAY FOR NINTENDO AND SONY FOR MAKING WARP PIPE TO BRING EVERY GAME EXCEPT MARIO KART ONLINE!!!!! Posted by: Mr. Knowitall at August 6, 2004 01:52 AMI thought that Nintendo work with Logitech and Eidos to make this program. Well now I know. Can't wait till they make a PS2 version and play MArio KArt on that using this. Posted by: Meetbag at August 6, 2004 02:28 AMI sended an email as well. I hope they make this happen. Well... at least Timesplitters 3 will include LAN play. Please make Star Fox: Armada with LAN support... Please..! Posted by: Robert Pensa at August 7, 2004 12:00 PMI've sent NOA an email. This is one of my first times visiting WarpPipe.com, and I decided to help because I'm a big Star Fox fan. I want Star Fox online. Now all I need is BroadBand Adapter, and Broadband connection! XD Posted by: Andy at August 7, 2004 12:43 PMI'm sending one, but why don't we ask for LAN in Metroid Echos? That NEEDS LAN too! Posted by: Chris at August 7, 2004 01:51 PMI'll e-mail right now we need more games with lan support Can we get a boxing or basketball game with lan support?? Posted by: NeekTuff at August 7, 2004 02:02 PMTHIS COULD BE THE BEST LAN ABLE MULTIPLAYER GAME ON GAMCUBE! Posted by: LANfan at August 7, 2004 04:54 PMI personally would LOVE for Star Fox Armada to have LAN capabilities. And I think everyone should urge Nintendo to implement the feature, I have, now many others should join in as well. Posted by: Daniel at August 8, 2004 02:17 PMHello, Nintendo of Europe GmbH http://www.nintendo.de Best. Posted by: MB at August 8, 2004 05:18 PMI sent an email talking about large-scale events with tournaments. I organize events for my university dorm complex, so I talked about our needs from a multiplayer game. These include more players and a time and spreading across TV's. I also mentioned joining tournaments with other universities with WarpPipe. Posted by: Darren at August 8, 2004 11:14 PMMB,Nintendo of Europe have HQs in just about every major European country, the adress at the top is the U.K one,but your right the main one is in Germany Posted by: K-weave at August 9, 2004 04:57 AMAnother game I think is online is another Phanasty Online game for GCN, Xbox, and PS2. ALSo I don't think Mario Tennis for gcn will have online or LAN. Posted by: Flint at August 9, 2004 08:53 AMerrrr.....right, well ive emailed nintendo in the uk, they havent rplied yet but im sure ill get some generic reply. SEcondly, what is everyone talking about nintendo and sony working together!?!??! im usually well up on my game news but clearly something has passed me bye as i was under the impression warppipe is nothing to do with nintendo. hence the little disclaimer at the bottom of the warp pipe website...... somebody help please!!! ta! Posted by: fleisch at August 9, 2004 10:57 AMmayby we should be sending to namco because my responce sounded famiur to SNES take a look Hi!
As you know, this game is estimated for release in November of 2004. As such, we do not have many details to share about its features. Since I can tell that LAN play is important to you, I will make sure your e-mail is shared with the appropriate departments within Nintendo for review. In the meantime, stay tuned to our official website at www.nintendo.com to get the latest news about Nintendo and its products. As soon as we have additional details to share, you'll see it on our site! Also, since you mentioned Warp Pipe, I wanted to let you know that this service is not sponsored or supported by Nintendo. Therefore, we cannot comment on the products or services they may offer or even endorse the use of their service with our LAN compatible games. Thanks again for your e-mail. Nintendo of America Inc. I just e-mailed Nintendo and complained about Star Fox 2 AND Metroid Prime 2. Posted by: Grindie at August 9, 2004 04:36 PMi just sent one off to nintendo. (i know im a little late, but i was on vacation) contennts was as follows: I, too, would like to voice my support for this cause. I understand that it might not be possible to add in a feature that was not planned for, at such a late point the development of the game (although, it could very well have been planned for all along, since details of the game's features have not been released). Furthermore, I want to remind you that there are many people out there that would love to see more LAN-enabled games in the future. When arguing which system is better with my friends, they always say "well Gamecube doesn't have any online games", and sadly, its true. This is one area where Nintendo has greatly fallen behind its competitors. Unfortunately this "connectivity" thing you are pushing really isn't all that exciting. No one cares if they can hook their Gameboy Advance up to their Cube to get some silly extra things. I commend you on your efforts to "think outside the box" and bring us new ways to game, but sometimes you just have to let go. I was also curious what your feelings about WarpPipe are. Are you glad that someone has brought an online gaming community together for you, or are are you annoyed that someone beat you to it? Will you develop LAN games in the future specifically with WarpPipe in mind? Would you consider "buying out" WarpPipe to make it your own, Nintendo-controlled network? In summary: Please more LAN. Thank you for taking the time to read this. I trust you will make the right decisions, on behalf of the entire Cube gaming community. -Tim B.
Now since I know that this is made by Nintendo and Sony, I am going to e-mail this to Nintendo, Sony, and Namco. And why would Nintendo put Voice Support in Star Fox. I know you want it for the LAN turned online through Warp Pipe, but they are just trying to, if they do, put LAN in, and LAN usually doesn't need Voice Support because normally you are in the same room! Duh. So if Warp Pipe adds support for voice using attachable PC headsets this means Nintendo doesn't need to make a new accessory. God your dumb! Posted by: Luvthisehya at August 9, 2004 09:57 PMI must be right because Bill Gates is our former president! Duh. Posted by: Luvthisehya at August 9, 2004 09:59 PMI hope that more LAN games come out when Halo 2 comes out. Posted by: Flint at August 10, 2004 08:48 AM"LAN usually doesn't need Voice Support because normally you are in the same room!" Not in my case. I play MKDD with my bro and his GC is downstairs while mine is upstairs in my room (I plug in to our computer network). I sent an e-mail out too, the day I got the newsletter. They just sent back a "we're sorry, we looked at the Starfox2 webpage and there appears to be no plans for LAN support" e-mail. Since others have gotten different answers, I assume I was one of the first. :D Posted by: The Mega-ZZTer at August 12, 2004 01:52 PMI really don't think that Nintendo is making online games right now until maybe 2005. Should I stay or move to a PC, PS2, or Xbox? Posted by: Flint at August 13, 2004 08:54 AMI e-mailed nintendo about it. I got a email back from them saying thank you and that Star Fox is estimated for release in 11/04. So they don't have a lot of details about it. That they will make sure my e-mail is sent to the appropriate departments so Nintendo can review it. About Warp Pipe they said they do not sponsor it so they can't commend on it. -Raymond Day Posted by: Raymond Day at August 13, 2004 12:49 PMok i got THE generic reply saying it has been forwarded to he relevant departments etc etc. BUT no one has yet answered my previous question, as to why people keep on claiming that sony are working on this, when they are not. Also voice comms would be an idea, maybe build in an old version of roger wilko..... Posted by: fleisch at August 13, 2004 02:46 PMI learned from Electronic Gaming Monthly and Playstation Magazine that Sony and Ninyendo are are indeed working on Warp Pipe. That is at least what I heard amd read. Posted by: Meantht at August 13, 2004 04:17 PM^wth. Where do people get this stuff? 4 nintendo fans are making warppipe Posted by: Link_26 at August 13, 2004 11:47 PMWell Starfox is DELAYED, so I think Nintendo is putting in a LAN Mode. I hope that they will make more before the end. Posted by: Flint at August 16, 2004 01:10 PMI think this is great that we are all coming together as Nintendo fans to help guide them toward Lan support and future Online support. I recenly emailed IGN about doing the same thing that we are doing here. I would like to ask that all of you send IGNCube an email asking for them to ask all of their users to send Nintendo email or mail requesting Lan support for the Cube and Online support for "Revolution." I think that if we can get IGN behind this cause we may really be able to sway Nintendo. Here is the link to Email IGNCUBE: http://cube.ign.com/email.html Please support this cause so that we may all play together soon!! Posted by: Steve at August 16, 2004 01:55 PMWhohoooo!!! I want more online or LAN games now! So I can kick some @$$!! And if they do, I will be king of the Online gaming! They also really need to make more FPS and fighting games online, too! Posted by: Flint at August 17, 2004 03:56 PMYes, Nintendo should really try to make some games "real" online. The Advance Wars: Under Fire would be a perfect start for.... dum, duuum, dummmm, THE NINTENDO ONLINE EXPERIENCE!!! Posted by: Björn at August 18, 2004 03:40 PMI wrote: Thank You, I liked it... Posted by: Zaroff at August 18, 2004 10:24 PM |
|
|
Hosting provided by DreamHost Privacy Policy | EULA | Terms of Use Copyright © 2003 - 2005 Warp Pipe Technologies. All rights reserved. |